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?>A - QUESTION NEEDS ANSWER:
?>1-id question on a Skua Stercorarius spec. ?>2-Interesting wader, but... what is it? ?>3-
Adriaan Dijksen asked:

Is it Slaty-backed Gull Larus schistigagus or Taimyr Gull Larus taimyrensis?
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P8 pattern on Kamchatka Gull Larus kamchatchensis
 vs Short-billed Gull Larus brachyrynchus definitive?
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Mystery Stints in the State of Washington
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Southern hemisphere Tern
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Unknown Larus spec.
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Unknown Larus spec.=solved
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Unknown Larus spec.
 

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A - QUESTION NEEDS ANSWER:
Gull Puzzle  (>>>go to solitairy page<<<)


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gull 16112011 Brouwersdam, The Netherlands
c Norman Deans van Swelm


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gull 16112011 8631 Brouwersdam, The Netherlands
c Norman Deans van Swelm

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gull 27112011 1128 Brouwersdam, The Netherlands
c Norman Deans van Swelm

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gull 27112011 4724 Brouwersdam, The Netherlands
c Norman Deans van Swelm


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gull 27112011 4944 Brouwersdam, The Netherlands
c Norman Deans van Swelm


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gull 03122011 0853 Brouwersdam, The Netherlands
c Norman Deans van Swelm


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gull 03122011 2233 Brouwersdam, The Netherlands
c Norman Deans van Swelm



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gull 10122011 1709 Brouwersdam, The Netherlands
c Norman Deans van Swelm


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gull 10122011 4925 Brouwersdam, The Netherlands
c Norman Deans van Swelm



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gull 18122011 0352 Brouwersdam, The Netherlands
c Norman Deans van Swelm


2 - QUESTION NEEDS ANSWER:
Interesting wader, but... what is it?

Sandpiper 03081995 >01-13< Port of Rotterdam, The Netherlands
c Norman Deans van Swelm >01-13<

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3 - QUESTION NEEDS ANSWER:

Adriaan Dijksen asked me to show pictures of a dark-mantled gull he took in Chukochea, Russia.

The gull was in the company of the largest of the Glaucous Gull races pallidissimus.

It is not known wether the gulls were local breeders.

Is it Slaty-backed Gull Larus schistigagus or a Taimyr Gull Larus taimyrensis?

The latter can look rather dark when in the company of Glaucous Gulls.


Glaucous Gull Larus h.pallidissimus&dark-mantled Gull July 1993 Chukochea, Kolyma Delta,NE Russia c Adriaan Dijksen 

Glaucous Gull Larus h.pallidissimus&dark-mantled Gull July 1993

Chukochea, Kolyma Delta, NE Russia c Adriaan Dijksen 


Glaucous Gull Larus h.pallidissimus&dark-mantled Gull July 1993 283 Chukochea, Kolyma Delta,NE Russia c Adriaan Dijksen

Glaucous Gull Larus h.pallidissimus&dark-mantled Gull July 1993 283

Chukochea, Kolyma Delta, NE Russia c Adriaan Dijksen


4 - QUESTION NEEDS ANSWER:
P8 pattern on Kamchatka Gull Larus kamchatchensis
 vs Short-billed Gull Larus brachyrynchus definitive?


I recently received a verbal description of a Mew Gull that sounds very much
like it would be smack on for Kamchatka Gull. The keen observer was able
to get at least one photo of the bird and it is a flight shot taken on 1st February
2009 on Qualicum Beach, Britisch Columbia by Mike Ashbee.

Having looked at the photo, from what I can see there is reason to suspect
Kamchatka Gull however there is a small white subapical spot on P8. I had
thought that such a spot was not present on Kamchatka but given gulls, perhaps i
t is not a definitive mark? It does seem hard to believe that a single feather
would clinch an ID on a gull when other much more obvious
characters all seem to point in the direction of kamchatka.

In short, is the P8 pattern definitive in separating brachyrynchus from
kamchatka or do we have some kamchatka gulls out
there with brachyrynchus features and vice versa?

I would appreciate comments on the separation of these two as I receive
reports of Kamchatka on an annual basis here along the British Columbia coast.
Don Cecile



5 - QUESTION NEEDS ANSWER:
Mystery Stints in the State of Washington

Two stints with a stunning bright cinnamon colour were discovered in a huge flock
of waders, in particular Western Sandpipers
Calidris mauri. Please send your 
suggestions as to their identity to Clay Taylor
  ctaylor@att.net
The mystery stint is an unusually bright Western Sandpiper Calidris mauri in fresh breeding
plumage.
 
Mystery Stints in flock Western Sandpipers Calidris mauri, Grays Harbor,
WA State, USA, 2nd May 2008 c Clay Taylor, Swarovski  optik.


6 - QUESTION NEEDS ANSWER:
Southern hemisphere Tern

Southern hemisphere tern specDecember1975PuntaTombe,Argentina cFredvanOlphen.jpg

Southern hemisphere tern spec December1975 PuntaTombe, Argentina c  Fred van Olphen


7 - QUESTION NEEDS ANSWER:

Unknown Larus spec.

 1-Larus 2CY 12092007Scheveningen01

1-Larus 2CY 12092007 Scheveningen

1-This big and dark Herring Gull type, moulting from 1st summer to 2nd winter

plumage was found on 12th September 2007 on the beach of the Dutch coastal

resort of Scheveningen. Let us know if you have any suggestions about it's origin.

Suggestions are welcome.



This medium-sized gull was delivered to the Bird Hospital
of The Hague in July 2010.

gull spec. 06102010 7712/-13/-14 The Hague, Netherlands  c Norman Deans v Swelm

gull spec. 27112010 8148/8151 The Hague, Netherlands  c Norman Deans v Swelm